RELEASED-wip Mercedes-Benz W125 0.777

1937 grandprix car

  1. righi78

    righi78 New Member

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    First, of course, a great job. Only the rolling moment when accelerating is far too exaggerated. The default values are by far wrong. That's not how it really is. Even at the slightest acceleration, the car drifts away. In real life, nobody could drive this car. Please adjust this.

    Here it is fine:
    (this is the Pay Mod you know it i guess) These physics are good!
     
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  2. mantasisg

    mantasisg Active Member

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    I don't even...

    How do you know if the default values are wrong ? And what values exactly are you talking about ?

    I suppose you drive the real car on pace, if you claim that the car is not how it really is. May you elaborate how do you assume that ? Have you done any specific observations, that we have failed to ? Or is it simply because you failed to master the car in three minutes ?

    Also what is the slightest acceleration ? Define me that.

    IRL some great men was able to drive the car perfectly fine, even in rain.

    If you prefer that cheap conversion, then it is ok with me, use that. I guess if you have pay for then it is automatically better. P.S. that one looks quite throttle sensitive too.
     
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  3. luchian

    luchian Administrator Staff Member Pilot RLR

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    Regardless of you being right or wrong, this kind of "feedback" is useless.

    Speak with data, give examples instead of general remarks. IF you give general remarks, then you need to argument/demonstrate somehow (real life experience, real measurements, feedback from people that actually drove the car, etc). Without these, no matter how willing a modder is to listen to you, it's impossible to modify something for the better.
     
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  4. mantasisg

    mantasisg Active Member

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    I have also forgotten that I never updated the car. I just never found myself working further on the model...

    But I have tweaked it slightly, after the feedback from Gary, which was on point. It does give the car a bit more grip.
     
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  5. mantasisg

    mantasisg Active Member

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    mantasisg updated Mercedes-Benz W125 with a new update entry:

    Version 2019

    Read the rest of this update entry...
     
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  6. luchian

    luchian Administrator Staff Member Pilot RLR

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    Totally true :lol::banghead:
     
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  7. Vintagedriver1

    Vintagedriver1 New Member

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    I do have two free versions of this W125, maybe the other version is more of your taste, found it simple by Google and/or Youtube. I never drive such a car, but I have seen lots of Youtube documentaries about pre-war racing and you see that these drivers are constantly correcting the car and drifting the car into the corner. Bad road surface, small & primitive tyres and bad suspension, in combination to high power output, I suspect a deadly combination to your road handling.

    Would like to ask the designer on what he did exactly, change in the update?
     
  8. mantasisg

    mantasisg Active Member

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    Most recent changes were making tires a bit less like a marshmallows.

    I keep trying to make the car less floaty, but so that it wouldn't be too grippy at the same time (because I'd like laptimes to be realistic). There is nice recent video with few episodes of Valtteri Bottas getting it on the limit. Although it likely drives on better rubber than there was actually in 1937, it still should be relatively similar, because most likely grip is similar, but the difference is at wear. You can see the car doesn't drive at an excessive angle constantly when abusing the throttle, but it does seem to have relatively good grip. I don't mind to take a big banked turn at Deutschland Ring with relatively straight steering and doing part of the steering with throttle, but at some point I can even calmly add more throttle and start kinda drifting it. It feels wrong and it looks wrong in replay. It was an issue since the beginning of this mod. I think it got greatly reduced since then, but it still happens. I don't know how much of this is a result of some wrong tire modeling from my side, and how much is from hardcoded side of Assetto Corsa. Something feels off about combination of driving force slip ratio and slip angle at the rear, feels like if I could have great deal of both at the same time...
     
  9. fughettaboutit

    fughettaboutit Member

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    great stuff
     
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  10. mantasisg

    mantasisg Active Member

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    mantasisg updated Mercedes-Benz W125 with a new update entry:

    Car handling update

    Read the rest of this update entry...
     
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  11. Vintagedriver1

    Vintagedriver1 New Member

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    Sorry but my content manager can not load this car.

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  12. mantasisg

    mantasisg Active Member

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    Have you tried to redownload and reinstall ? Delete what you have now at first, so you'll not get somehow confused. I don't think that these files are missing from what I have uploaded.
     
  13. Vintagedriver1

    Vintagedriver1 New Member

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    I will redownloaded again and before install delete the old one, strange but the old version was without problem.

    Edit, it is working, now after an redownload.
     
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