SHADER setting-up trees

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  1. maachu

    maachu New Member

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    Actually all my trees are Y shaped ! I followed most of your tutorials hehe !
    I did not tried the model.ini yet, I figured out way too many problems on my file so I'll consider remodelling it again...
     
  2. LilSKi

    LilSKi Well-Known Member

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    I saw some mirrored UVs on your trees so I thought they were X trees. If they at Y shaped then you need to fix the UVs.
     
  3. BlablaPaige

    BlablaPaige New Member

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    Hello

    There's a few thing I might need help on, but first, I placed my tree using a particles system, now I have arround 9000 tree, is it the normal way to do it or is there an other one? Beacause this technic make the "KSTREE_GROUP_X_x" way harder to use, since they are all named "KSTREE_GROUP_OAK_1.001 .."
    I also think particles isn't the solution du to the one object/one material, beacause I can't put the tree shadow with the particles without correcting all 5000 tree one by one

    Also during the import into the KS editor, it seem like my tree explode, I suspect the scale being the reason but reason I don't understand, I can't apply it in blender
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...ot_ks_ferrari_f2004_test_4-2-121-23-16-46.jpg
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...ot_ks_ferrari_f2004_test_4-2-121-23-16-12.jpg

    Oh and I'm using last version of blender
     
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  4. fughettaboutit

    fughettaboutit aka leBluem

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    looks like scaled in one direction only, can you show a pic from 3d-software?

    about placing the trees: you should do them in parts, not doing them all at once, then you can easily get the naming scheme better suited...
     
  5. BlablaPaige

    BlablaPaige New Member

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    Hm, I don't have the file anymore, but the scale of the tree was something like 1.1/0.9/1.3, and for a reason blender wouldn't let me apply the scale but the error message wasn't very helpful

    Ok will try, but how to manage the treeshadow mesh? Since it can't have 2 material on 1 mesh, how do I seperate it after applying the particles system?
     
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  6. quetillo

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    Good, they gave me some bushes and when I put them and play in assetto, when the sun shines they look bright, I lower the tone a little, but they are more colorful by the edges. They can be modified although they remain if that brightness of when the sun gives them and they are not dark.
     
  7. Johnr777

    Johnr777 Moderator

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    What?? Hard to understand what you trying to say... again, better to post images
     
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  8. quetillo

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    someone knows the configuration of the trees when creating an xpack with the RTB xpacker.
     

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  9. GRLap

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  10. Pixelchaser

    Pixelchaser Well-Known Member

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    It wasn`t possible without blender or 3dmax intervention, but that was a few years ago. ac needs single tree models and rtb likes to group it all together, but as i say i wouldnt be surprised if that changed, and also not surprised if brendon from rtb decided to keep being a twatt the rest of his life.
     
  11. GRLap

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    Am I correct that an individual "Y tree" consists of two Y meshes, one Y mesh with its normals and texture facing one direction, the other Y mesh with its normals and texture facing the opposite direction, and the two Y meshes sitting in the same XYZ space, i.e. fully overlapping each other?

    Does an individual Y tree object contain both Y meshes, or is each Y mesh it's own object?

    I assume the former; that a unique tree object has two Y meshes overlapping. However, I am getting an odd result when I import this into KS Editor (1st photo). The trees have a black conical cut-out around the base. I set object origins at base of tree, as instructed. It's also odd in blender (2nd photo), where the texture is patchy, as though the overlapping Y meshes are interfering with each other?

    Any help appreciated.
    tree KSE.jpg tree blender.jpg
     
  12. fughettaboutit

    fughettaboutit aka leBluem

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    move pivot to the bottom

    a y-tree sloppyly hand exploded:
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  13. fughettaboutit

    fughettaboutit aka leBluem

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    upload_2021-11-14_15-5-24.png
     
  14. GRLap

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    thanks for quick reply fughettabouit. What is the "pivot" as opposed to the origin? I don't know what is a "pivot" in blender. I thought the origin is supposed to be at base of object. I set the orgin by snapping 3d cursor to base vertex and then setting origin to cursor. but that is "origin", not pivot. The origins are at base of tree for each tree object.
     
  15. fughettaboutit

    fughettaboutit aka leBluem

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    oh yes, origin = pivot, and yes at the bottom it should be, not sure what else is wrong then
     
  16. GRLap

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    thanks. all origins at bottom, and I get this strange black cone within each tree
     
  17. fughettaboutit

    fughettaboutit aka leBluem

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  18. GRLap

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    yes, those are my settings, more or less.
     
  19. fughettaboutit

    fughettaboutit aka leBluem

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    alphatest, i updated the pic to have alphatest set
     
  20. fughettaboutit

    fughettaboutit aka leBluem

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    ksSpecular = 0.0
     
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